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STOP CHILD PORNOGRAPHY

CHILDREN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE SAFE AND UNHARMED, HELP PROTECT OUR CHILDREN

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If you come across child pornography on the internet DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

So, the story is, I was contemplating what I would write my next hub page on. So, I hopped on Dogpile Search Spy, a tool that allows anyone to see what people are searching for on the Internet in real time.

I selected "unfiltered results" and I watched what people were searching for ...for five minutes there were 8-10 searches for Child pornography (which I will refer to as CP). Most of them contained brutally violent and sadistic terms which would rule out any defense that people were searching for CP for a school paper or because they wanted to find out what it is.

I was SO disgusted to see that ANYONE out there would be searching for this type of material, and I BECAME NEAUSATED when i realized that some of these people aren't just looking for naked pictures, they were looking for pictures that show child molestation, abuse, and battery.

Understandably, people who spend their time searching for this, and get pleasure out of such sick and twisted sites, content, and photos have some type of mental illness and need professional help. I have read about child molesters that like to "look" at CP so that they don't act. This rational is, COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

Any person under 18 should not be nude in a photograph ANYWHERE especially online. Never-mind getting abused, beaten, raped and tortured in photos and videos online. And if you come across such content you should not ADMIRE IT, GET TURNED ON BY IT, OR EVEN BE EMBARRASSED AND CLOSE THE WINDOW AND FORGET ABOUT IT. IF YOU COME ACROSS ANY TYPE OF CHILD PORN ON THE INTERNET YOU HAVE TO REPORT IT.

CP on the Internet has been in and out of the court systems. It is a topic that is always heated, but it is true that since this is so widespread on the Internet, its extremely hard to control. Websites and search engines are attempting to use strict search filters and not returning pornographic content. For example... if you Google " child porn" you will come up with results that are educational, news articles, lawsuits, information for victims etc. So, it seems like the search filters are HELPING, but it isn't perfect. For instance, any sicko who wants to get his fix of CP can play around with keywords and eventually he will get what he wants. For example " Preeteen naked pics".

Unfortunately, this disgusting problem is further complicated by social networking sites, forums, online groups, etc where any adult can enter any chat room, or become a "friend" or "fan" of someones page who is under 18. Any adult can pose as a fellow child. We've all seen news stories about adults praying on children online, kidnapping them, molesting them, murdering them, etc. While we all gasp in shock, we don't take the time out to consider what we as INDIVDUALS can do about it. The courts, and popular search engines can only do so much.

Instead of spending your time playing games online, bidding on ebay, chatting with your friends, why not take some time out and make a difference:

- If you come across CP REPORT IT right away with as much detailed information as possible. You can research ways to report CP, or I have included a link to the right of this article...to a site where you can report CP online.

- Seek out CP. I'm not kidding, start mixing up keywords, report everything you find. Once you see the graphic nature of the CP that is out there, I have a hard time thinking you WOULDN'T report it.

-Keep an eye out in online groups or social bookmarking sites for CP. Report them to the site, and report them to a bigger site that will turn over CP reports to the authorities.

- If you come across CP related discussion in a chat room, take down their screen name. Call the police and let them know exactly what was said. Save the chat if you can.

- Educate and protect your children, or any children you know. Enforce tight restrictions on your child's Internet usage. Monitor them, even if you get some backlash and they INSIST nothing bad will happen to them, better safe than sorry.

-If your child is a member of social networking groups, make them give you their screen names and passwords. Keep an eye out for any racy photos they may post, or any older adults on their "friends" list. Read their messages. And no, your child isn't entitled to privacy when they live under your house, under your rules, and are surfing an Internet full of sexual predators.

- Check your history often. Tell your child that if they delete the history or cache, they will be grounded and lose computer privileges.

- Invest in a keystrokes program. Monitor what your child is chatting/writing about online.

- Google your child's name, address, physical characteristic, any known screen names to make sure nothing sketchy is coming up in the search results.

- Keep your computer password protected. Only allow your child on for a certain amount of time per day. Do not let them use the internet late at night.

- Get your childs screen name and passwords for any and all messaging programs and chat rooms.

- Go to counseling to keep communication open with your child. If your child feels like they can't talk to you, chances are, you won't know if they are being preyed on by adults.

- Monitor your childs phone calls.

-Make them give you numbers of any friends houses they visit. Call and check up on them. Drop them off yourself, so that you know they are really going there.

- Have someone check on your child if they stay home alone while you are at work.

- Keep in mind that some sexual predators do NOT hide the fact that they are adults in chats and so forth. They will let your child know they are adults and use tactics like "you can trust me", "you can talk to me", "I'll take care of you", etc, etc.

- Don't take any chances. I know you can "trus" your child, but you never know. if you aren't sure what type of creeps are out there, make up a screen name, something along the effects of "babygirl14" and go into teen chat sites. Dont interact with other people. Sooner or later YOU WILL get approached by an adult. Then you will see exactly what goes on when your children are online.

No adult has any right to molest, beat, harm, violate, batter, etc etc ANY CHILD, children are the next generation, we should admire and value their innocence and do our part to show them the world has good in it. Don't let sexual predators take away a childs innocence and display this cruel reality online for the world to see.

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stephhicks68 Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Wow - I just went to the dogpile unfiltered view to see what people were searching for now. Didnt' take long to see such searches pop up!

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John Chancellor 3 years ago

Shocking. I really had no idea there were so many sick people out there.

I think the most valuable information you gave was how are were to report CP when we encounter it.

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Bard of Ely Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Thank you for sharing this important information! I knew the situation was bad but didn't how it was to the extent you have described!

RUTHIE17 3 years ago

You are so right that the sick c_ _p on the internet must be stopped!  And not just on the internet but TV, movies, video games and adult comics and magazines.

Our children shouldn't have to be afraid but that is exactly what has happened.  We taught our 3 year old grandson to be watchful of people-men, women and big kids- and to yell "STRANGER DANGER!" if someone tries to touch him or grab him.   Now  that he's 4 1/2 we're looking into self-defense classes. We're afraid for him and afraid of what could happen to him. 

Where did the innocence of childhood go?

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Bonnie Ramsey 3 years ago

Great Hub! I think this is something that while many of us are aware of, it is so sickening that we tend to turn away from it because we just can't phathom the thought of this happening to any child. Thanks for giving information on what to do about it when we find this type of thing. I haven't ran across any Cp sites but have ran into enough porn to last a liftime. It is really sad what our society is considering acceptable these days.

Bonnie

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Inspirepub 3 years ago

This is a great Hub, and these are very valid points.

However, I should point out that most kids who are sexually abused are NOT abused by strangers. The vast majority are abused by a relative, with second place going to an adult in a position of trust, such as a scout leader, church leader, or teacher.

The best way to protect your kids is to raise them with the experience and the belief that they can say "STOP" and any adult will immediately stop what they are doing to the child.

Invading their privacy as suggested in this Hub can be problematic, because you are teaching them that they are not allowed to have boundaries. Predators feed on kids who haven't learned to set boundaries on their own privacy, by asking intimate questions and so on.

It would be safer for the kids to negotiate with them about it rather than just imposing it. Explain the problem, show them examples of the sorts of conversations predators have with kids, and then get their agreement that they will only chat online with people they have met in real life, or something similar.

This is a timely warning, though, and very useful links!

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madhavisb 3 years ago

http://www.copperwiki.org/index.php/Child_Sex_Tour

Every recognized country in the world, except for the United States and the collapsed state of Somalia, has ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child, pledging to uphold its protections for children. Today the convention stands as the single most widely ratified treaty in existence. See PROMISES BROKEN

Raky 3 years ago

I am totally satisfied with inspirepub comments.....Please please do help in spreading information to protect Child pornography.http://tinyurl.com/3zddd4

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Storytellersrus Level 7 Commenter 3 years ago

Dear Lady Luck,

This is the first Hub I've read of yours and I am so amazed at how you saw a situation and immediately developed an informative piece to educate all of us. Thumbs up to you!

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Acorn Valley 3 years ago

Wow!! Great hub! I have a four year old who is just beginning to use the computer and I hadn't given much thought to this topic but you've made me think about it. Great job!! I definitely report anything I find.

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firetown 3 years ago

Google is starting to wake up http://searchfeature.com/blog/google-technology-to

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beachbum_gabby 3 years ago

this is very shocking and must not taken for granted. Children is our future, what happens in the world if they're abused at a young age.

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Princessa Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago

Very good hub. The more people aware of the problem, the better. As a mother I feel that there are never enough precautions and care with your children. Communication and education are the key.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Very important hub to have in this day in age. Thank you for informing the public about this issue.

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tinyteddy 3 years ago

great  job

when  i was  the  local  authority  of  mamallapuram in  india  -  an ancient  tourist  spot  dating  back  to  1000 BC     with  monoliths  and the  world's  largest  bas relief ,i encountered  an organisation  called  ROPE   - they  used  to adopt  small kids  since  some  of them  had   been  born  to the  visitng  tourists  of  yesteryears AND WERE FAIRSKINNED. we finally  found that they were  exploited  for  child porn and    along  with    many others  who were like minded stages a struggle to ban that outfit.

  so  i am happy that  some one like you out there  cares  for  these  voiceless  victims.

  great  job ' courageous post

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senfunn 3 years ago

Thank you for the tips !!

And i think the governments too must actively participate in curbing such nasty deeds and take it up as their responsibility.

A Child's heart is God's in purity.

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crashcromwell Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

Boy, you've really touched on something here. It shouldn't be a surprise, though. I get the same kind of feeling when I see the Catch a Predator shows on Dateline NBC. You're right that these people are mentally ill, but that alone does not absolve anyone from guilt. All it does is sends up a red flag that people need help. Thank you for tackling this difficult subject. I'm glad to join your fan club!

Jim Henry

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RFox 3 years ago

This is important information. Especially the part about reporting it. So many people when surfing the net don't think to report the stuff they come across. Excellent hub.

I do agree with Jenny (InspirePub) regarding her comments.

It's great to see people fighting for children.

misc 3 years ago

is it illegal for someone to have it on a work computer... private business... i was working with someone and he had it on his computer, can you turn them in and where.

tary 3 years ago

it has been affecting the way how teenagers even the enfants think.and i as a teen think its time to for it to be stopped because we still have live to live free from all this corruptive business

Stupid 3 years ago

I had turned a blind eye once and regret it ever since. I was afraid that I'd be investigated if I reported CP but now I know I should have reported it anyway.

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snarlmkiv 3 years ago

as much as we want to stop child pornography, those that cater to this industries are breeding like cockroaches, crawling from every crevice and crack in the net. stopping one does make a difference but it takes one big action to put a big cork on this sick industry. if a bill, similar to this one is passed (and after making it sensible), it should definitely be a big blow to the porn industry as a whole.

http://www.siakoi.com/topic-specific/the-anti-obsc

shocked 3 years ago

i was reading on yahoo, about some kind of exotic elephant, so i did a yahoo search for exotic elephants, and this list of sites came up, one said " Free Fu**ing Movies" so i clicked on it. On its home page, ( no need to watch any videos) it had pic after pic of women w/ animals, and some of them looked like little girls not even 16 and some didnt even look like they wanted to be doing those things. I didnt know how to report it, Ive been searching for over 45 min. on someplace I can report it and this is as close as Ive gotten, if this will even post after I type it all out. But if someone who knows a little more about this can just check it out. Just do a yahoo search for " Exotic Elephants" it should pop up for you, sorry I didnt want to stay on it, and didnt think to get the site name.

Liam 3 years ago

The Best Thing We Can Do Is Pray

Prayer to God is SO Powerful

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Sarah Songing 3 years ago

Thank you for you for you thorough and thought-provoking hub, Lady Luck. The small victims of this abuse need us to stand up and be their voice. Thank you for shedding light on a terrible issue that demands much more of our attention. Child pornography has been a source of hreatbreak for me for several years after seeing a night news special on a specific boy's story. I've always wanted to be part of fighting back, but didn't know what I could personally do. Thank you for your help.

sienna 2 years ago

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We are looking forward for you to help us in our mission against CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. If you can still access the site its not yet blocked. Children are being forced to do XXX Pornography pictures and images. Most of these children and adult don’t have any legal contranct and documentation. Therefore they end up exploited. Check the following links below:

http://secure.teenlovelive.com

its your choice, check the site account and be a judged to yourself to blocked it.

Thanks and Godbless!

wade 2 years ago

i came across a website called charming angles. www.charmig-angles.net it offers child ages 7 to 14 pics. and wanting to report the site to get it taken off the net. fn sick

aj 2 years ago

great post. i love to see so many people willing to stand up and fight this. god bless

flagflagger 2 years ago

I agree and I do; I've been seeking out and reporting this bull shit for a few years; every since I stumbled on to how sick some of these freaks are. I've turned in literally hundreds of sites and it does work.

Thanks for your report.

flag.

Laila 2 years ago

great post! few months ago I saw on T.V this guy made a documentary about child prostitution in cambodia,"felt really sad" you are right! we can help by reporting any website that has child pornography.

sps 2 years ago

i looked at some porn not to long ago , and im sure some were underage pics of girls, i have been feeling bad for seeing it and wanted to report it, however, does this mean i accessed it?, not on purpose though, i forget the site and dont want to re visit it, thats why i am on your site. what should i do?

concernedmom 2 years ago

I looked at some porn today and accidentally came across what seemed to be underage teens - it said "young" i got out of it ASAP - does this mean I did something wrong even though my search was never indicating anything related?

mike s il 2 years ago

I ran across a site today while flagging dome youtube vids and some pic hosting site with pics of this uoung do callef modrl in skimpy clothing; on with her shirt off. I went to a site called asacp and reported it immediately even though the def of cp wasnt met... i was still destutbed

mike s il 2 years ago

I ran across a site today while flagging dome youtube vids and some pic hosting site with pics of this uoung do callef modrl in skimpy clothing; on with her shirt off. I went to a site called asacp and reported it immediately even though the def of cp wasnt met... i was still destutbed

jmb9520 2 years ago

what is the name of the site to report cp? asacp? my daughter was kidnapped by my exwife and dumped in a boarding school in india at age 5. i have joint custody and have been fighting to get her back for going on 7 years now. while in court my exwife claimed to work at a design studio named young orchid ( i thought) actually she said it was called, wild orchid i found out later. anyway, i went online to basically prove that she was not employed and was using her aunts flower shop as a fake place of employment. when i typed in youngorchid, i was shocked. i didnt get much sleep the next couple of nights. my daughter is supposedly in an all girls school BY HERSELF. anything could happen to her. there is something that needs to be done to these sick bastards, if people report, is there a way to find out if weve made a difference, or if anyone has been prosecuted?

Applesauce 21 months ago

www.cybertip.ca

http://www.iwf.org.uk/

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/Pag

at each of these sites you can report CP. However, just a note, it's not the best idea to actively search out CP to report. This could place you in a position to be charged with accessing CP. If you come across a link or file, report them at these links. You can also report other incidents of child sexual abuse or suspected child sexual abuse here. Reports to Cybertip have resulted in over 56 arrests and over 22 children being removed from abusive environments (in Canada). They have a full report on how they work and what they do on their website.

Skott Briggs 21 months ago

Ive checked dogpile and noticed this and Ive also typed other keywords to find these sites, but wasn't sure where to report them. It is very disturbing that these sites are still out their.

Andrew 18 months ago

hi i type in teen porn looking for eighteen year old girl went on the site and on the bottom it said all models are over eight when pics were taken but then something pop up on my screen saying "this is child porn your computer will be shut of till the cops come to your door" i was not try to look at under aged girls that is messed up wondering what i should do will i get in trouble

arun 16 months ago

men/ women who r directly in it has to be punished with ....... kids who r affected should be given a better life the above mentioned are good .................... and valuble................

mike 15 months ago

we have to do all we can to get rid cp from the internet

hubpageswriter 13 months ago

Shocking. I had no idea too, that there are lots of sick people out there. Child kidnapping, child pornography and all sick stuffs involving children should be stopped. Parents must up security of looking after the good welfare of their children. Good awareness hub here.

sahil 13 months ago

i am new to this...those people who do these are faggot bastuards,i quicked searched if i find a url (via child porn>google images)

and i found there is one pic though black and white may b some war scene/aftermath dropping of napam bomb....glad to see there are almost no porn pics of child...i will surely inform this site if found.but i fear of getting trouble of police and all.coz the only way i know to search is through keywords....any suggestion?

mail me at sahilshinesalways@gmail.com

Mary 12 months ago

Does anyone have any info on training and volunteering to help catch these people. I would be interested in posing as a young person in a chat room and catching these sick people. Email me at sabinainoh@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Scooter34 12 months ago

@ Andrew: You should probably go ahaid and plead guilty to trying to access a site with cp. It shouldn't carry more than 10 years, but you can get out sooner. I think everyone should follow your example and help save the children by confessing.

No more abuse 12 months ago

Their sick

shanique 12 months ago

this world is a sick place....

knight1 10 months ago

I have always been taught to put myself in the other persons shoes. When I do, I try to imagine what these kids must be going through or thinking of while pictures are being taken of them. Are their parents with them and allowing it just so they can make money? I wish the government would have a box on our tax returns where we could donate $2.00 towards a task force whose sole purpose is to find and rescue these kids. We hopefully could stop child pornography or at least save some of these kids allowing them have a normal life!

brent 10 months ago

it is heartbreaking and shocking when you realise just how messed up some websites are but after watching oprah and dr phil you kinda feel so hopeless and helpless wondering what on earth you yourself can really do about it. but how do they get away with it?? it makes me sooo angry.

nelson 9 months ago

What really sucks is there really isn't anything you can do to help I have found out, other than report what you stumble over or providing funding (which are both admirable). It is incredibly heart breaking that this happens and I wish there was more that every day citizens could do to stamp it out!

googleit 9 months ago

I agree with you on the fact that you should monitor your kids but these people don't use regular servers they use home servers with SSL encryption and passwords. These people that are using search engines to find this stuff are investigates and people that are not "IN" yet. These people are every were their is a chance you know some one that looks at it. Another thing is your kids might be looking for the same content you are against. Believe it or not their are some kids that just want to do that they don't even need to be forced. These who look at this stuff is not always adults. So my question for you is what if you check your kids history and find that he is looking for the stuff? Do you get him help? or do you Report him?

jrff johnson 8 months ago

How can you find these sites to see if you can match children with those missing and report. I tried one site but it said busted ? Dont know what that was for.

Rob 8 months ago

I came across some on a image sharing site, couldnt really call it porn as they were either dressed or skinny dipping etc. but some of the comments people left were shocking and many were leaving url's to other sites, dont know whether to follow it up to try and help stop it a little, what does the law say regarding this?

Peter Foil 7 months ago

Hello I clicked on this link on this 7chan website that lead to a child-modeling website, those "legal" websites as they re-call. If you click on a picture however you'll be send to child-porn websites and I'm surprised how nothing has been done about this after I have reported this to the FBI, that website still stands.

"http://nonude-beauties.com/" that's the modeling website if you're curious.

It's2bad 7 months ago

Man..Is sad..because you put down one site and then comes 10 sites...I saw a lot of sites..And even torrents with movies and pictures..And You report them but after a few days they come back..I think the best way..I can do is to create a site..This a have in mind.. For parents how to take care of their child's and look after them...

VISHAL 5 months ago

I CAME ARCROSS A WEBSITE IT WAS FILLED WITH LITTLE CHILDREN I WAS DISGUSTED

Sally 4 months ago

There should be more sites out there promoting the stop of violence against children ,,, I dont get this we have so many useless commercials on tv but hardly anything that involvs helping children stay protected against predators. We should all think because if we see a lot of useful stuff in all types of media then the predators will think twice about harming children. We should not wait for something bad to happen which is the case most of the time, we all should act now.... In this matter time is a tick bomb,,

A father 4 months ago

I took a different aproche at this and started on a site with women of leagle age and after awile of bouncing around from site to site, in the end it led me to what I can only asume was CP. Is it ever going to end how do people even get to put up a site to begin with and how the hell are they not held accountable. This is BULL SHIT. They can make a virus up to hack peoples computers, why cant they make a virus that seeks out sites that containe CP and end them... It seems like a loosing battle..In the end I think it comes Down to Protecting your own. Thanks

mls 4 months ago

a father very well said i agree 100%

Al 3 months ago

If you want to get rid of ChildPorn for good, we need to take down all these P2P programs and child modeling websites. That is where all the ChildPorn comes from on the internet.

a careing parent 3 months ago

it just dont seem to matter what link you click its everywhere how can we protect our children if fbi is already trying to help how can we i so wish we could erase this nonsense off the enet

Peter Foil 3 months ago

"www.nonude-beauty.com"

This is the new "child modeling" website now.

We need to report this website to the FBI as soon as possible. This website is the reason why childporn exist in alot of places around the net. This website has alot of links that go to alot of childporn websites by clicking on pictures everytime. They claim that it's "child modeling" but I did research and discovered that it's all childporn hidden on the net. I tried to report this website to the FBI and they still have yet not done anything about it.

sm 3 months ago

Stickcam is an evil menace that should be stopped.

Devyn 2 months ago

I hope that some one will find a way to stop CP completely and our children will be safer.

shane 2 months ago

iam a single father of 4 beautiful kids and it would tear my heart out to ever se any of my kids on any one of these sites.iam pretty much computer illiterate.my kids help me with searching for stuff at times.my buggest question is. if i sell a car for instance then i have to show evidence of who iam.or any other transaction. i must show proof.then how can someone put such disturbing material on the net and get away with it .do they not have to register or show who they are.or has technology gotten beyond our control that we fail the littlest most precious people in our lives.and how can one call themselves parents and let this appauling behavier take place.sad old day for the human race when the sight of a naked and abused child turns one on.god help us all.we need to find these cancerous warts and string them up.

concernedguy 6 weeks ago

I can't believe what I just saw... There are soo many sick pics and videos of little children still available on the net. And these well known websites carry the files... I looked at a few of them, and I felt sick... it was so unbeliveable!!! There are so many SICK people out there... I was curious to see how easy it could be found and it did not take that much effort. Videos and pics are readily available to download... This world is filled with sick people... I hope in time they all realize how terrible they are.

terrible 2 weeks ago

It is really sick. I was looking on the internet just now and found hundreds of children posing almost nude and some were nude. I couldn't believe my eyes. Sick people in this world! It all needs to be taken off the internet! I couldn't believe it

jason 2 weeks ago

hey this is kinda embarressing but im going to say it anyway.. im 18 years old(male) and i think i have just come across a child porn site. how I came across it? well..im just going to be straight with you, i was looking at 'normal' porn site when i clicked on a video and a link brought me to another site. This website looked really dodgey and im pretty sure the girls on it were underage. I immediatly closed the window with shock and like you said not to do in this article I tried to forget about it. However my conscience got the better of me and i was disturbed by the fact that the underage girls on the site might be abused aswell. Just to let you know im going to report this website. As far as i can remember the websites name is 'tinycams' and i would appreciate it if whoever reads this comment reports it aswell. thanks.

concern 13 days ago

stop the pain to childs

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